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NARRATOR:
In the criminal justice system

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the people are represented by two
separate yet equally important groups,

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the police
who investigate crime

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and the district attorneys
who prosecute the offenders.

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These are their stories.

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MAN: Okay, you're clear.

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You're good to go, Frank.

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POLLACK: Nice
take-off, Frankie.

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You keep this up, you could
land on a dime, make change.

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That was a joke, Frank.

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FRANK: Okay. I'm sorry.

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Five, plus pilot
on board, Robby.

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Frank, you got a four
minute ETA to JFK Radar.

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Wind's south-southeast at 12.
Visibility, five miles.

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(STATIC)

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I didn't read you,
Frank. Say again?

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(BEEPING AND COMMOTION
IN BACKGROUND)

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Oh, God. Oh, God!

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Lewin Heli Flight 6947,
this is control.

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Do you wish to declare
an emergency?

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(PEOPLE SCREAMING)

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Lewin Heli Flight 6947, Frank?
(EXPLODING)

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Robby, call 911!

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LEWIN: I've seen them go
down before, not like this.

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Fell like a rock.

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Six on board,
including the pilot.

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We're gonna need names,
addresses, next of kin.

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I'll get on it now.

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The bureau wants the names
withheld, pending investigation.

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ED: What about the pilot?

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Frank Naransky. Decorated
chopper pilot from Vietnam.

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Two tours.
Shot down twice.

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Third time's the charm.

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When was the last maintenance
on the helicopter?

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Last week.

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Frank already made two
runs to JFK this morning.

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No problems.

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We'll need the service records.

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What's it look like?

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Chopper's structurally intact. We
got three more bodies to pull out.

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Bomb damage?

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Nothing that punctured
the envelope.

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But the luggage
compartment looks bad.

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So it was a bomb?

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We got debris, burn marks. Could be a bomb.
Could be mechanical failure.

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Whatever it was, it's
gonna give us nightmares.

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STARK: Luggage compartment,
back of the chopper.

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From the scarring on the metal,

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slight tinting rather
than major shearing,

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seems it was a low order
of explosive. Not high tech.

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Probably dynamite.

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Where was it?
In a piece of luggage?

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That's the million
dollar question.

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There's a lot of damage
to the luggage,

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but mostly from the crash
itself, not the explosion.

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The initial explosion
wasn't that powerful.

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It did the trick.

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We're not talking Osama bin Laden here.
Bomb wasn't sophisticated.

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If it had been, I wouldn't
have luggage to look at.

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We talking a timer
or an altimeter?

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I haven't found
pieces from either.

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No telling when the bomb
was set to detonate.

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It might've detonated
prematurely?

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Strong possibility.

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These people were
all bound for JFK flights.

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The bomb could've been
meant for a jet.

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We'll cover that end.

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When can we get a definitive
answer on the luggage?

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I'm not sure. We're working
as fast as we can.

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All right. Check out
passengers, pilots,

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anyone who might've
come in contact

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with this chopper
before it took off.

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LEWIN: I thought it was a maintenance
problem, now it's a bomb?

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I'm sure your lawyers
will be relieved.

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Not my point, of course.

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Of course. Can I see
your flight manifest?

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Mr. Lewin, who
loaded the bags?

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Our people, all
long-term employees.

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ED: Any grudges
you know about?

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I pay my guys well.
They got good bennies.

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Union says I gotta do this or that.
I go four steps better.

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Just a generous guy, huh?

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Just good business sense.
Turnover costs can kill you.

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Anyone else have
access to the luggage?

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Just my guys. Passenger
hands one of them the bags,

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he puts it on board.

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So where were you when
the flight was loading?

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My helicopters. I'm always here.
I check with the pilot.

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ED: Naransky?
Yeah.

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Just before he took off, I gave him
a thumbs up and I headed back in.

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Passengers Elliot and Janelle
Patchett, and their daughter, Ally.

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Yeah. Kid looked
to be about five.

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Joseph A. Callister.
Talk to any of these people?

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No. Saw them board, is all.

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Tony Rollins.

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Changed his reservation
five times.

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It happens, if they can't get the
flight they want out of JFK.

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Rollins was bound for DC.

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Um, a lot of people go to DC.
Yeah.

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Lobbyists, politicians,
government officials.

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If someone's looking
to make a statement...

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Gibney Telecom, Rollins'
employer in Albany,

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says Rollins comes to New York
three or four times a month.

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Six trips to Montana in the last
four months and a couple to Wyoming.

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Guy's got permits
for four guns.

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Oh, audited by the IRS two
times in the last eight years.

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A disgruntled taxpayer
on his way to DC?

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Hey, he's the only passenger that doesn't
look like he's been dipped in Pine-Sol.

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Well, I guess we're
going to Albany.

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Yeah.

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I wanted to go to New York.

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To claim my husband's body.

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The FBI told me they weren't
releasing any of them yet.

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I have children to care for.

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I don't understand.
How do I know it's him?

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Tony wasn't supposed
to be in New York.

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What?

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He told me he was
going to DC on Thursday.

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He couldn't have been on that
helicopter the next day.

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Mrs. Rollins,
is this your husband?

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(GASPING) Oh, my God!

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I'm sorry.

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Mrs. Rollins, did your husband have
a problem with the government?

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A grudge against the IRS?

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No.

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Why would you ask that?

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He had two audits.

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His accountant handled it.

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Mrs. Rollins, these people are
with our Crime Scene Unit,

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we need them
to take a look around.

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Why? You think he did this?

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We have to check on everybody.
Can we get your permission?

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Uh, do you know who
he saw in Montana?

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No. It was work.

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ED: How about Wyoming?

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It was for his work.

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Well, who did he
know in New York?

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He just went in for
business when he had to.

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He hated New York.

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Did you talk to him
on Thursday?

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He never called.

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Instead, I get a call
from the police.

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He's never coming home.

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Nothing suspicious
about his travels.

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Montana and Wyoming are
hot territories for us.

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And the tax audits?
Was he upset about them?

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Wouldn't you be?
But he handled it.

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Tony took everything in stride.

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Where was he on Thursday?

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Supposed to be in Washington. Said
he was talking to some lobbyist.

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That's what his
wife thought, too.

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He have a habit
of disappearing?

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Tony did his job well.

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I figured he was where he
told me when he told me.

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Did you handle his travel
arrangements, Miss Ippolito?

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Most of the time, yes.

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Did you, uh, did you book these
tickets to Washington on Friday?

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Cheryl, if you
know something...

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He said he had
to stay in New York.

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He tell you why?

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Personal matter.
I didn't ask.

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ED: When was the last
time you talked to him?

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Friday morning.
He was in a rush.

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He asked me to call the hotel,

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arrange to have his luggage
waiting him at the JFK Heliport.

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Here it is. Two pieces.

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Tote bag, standard suitcase.

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Anthony Rollins,
Albany, New York.

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Shaving kit, toothbrush,
toothpaste,

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aftershave, box of
condoms, half used.

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Victoria's Secret
receipt, dated Thursday.

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Bra and panty set, size two.

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Wife was at least a six.

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That explains the condoms.

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You're gonna blow up a plane, you spend
your last night with some bimbo?

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You'd think he'd
spend it with his kids.

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You notice anybody waiting
for the chopper to get here?

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Couple of business
people. Regulars.

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BRISCOE: Nothing suspicious?
No.

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So nothing unusual
that morning?

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Just a little late getting off
the last trip back to Manhattan.

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Why late?

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The pilot, Frank Naransky.
He was on the phone.

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He usually hold things up?

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No. Frank was by the book.

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Except this time.

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Even when we called the
return flight to Manhattan,

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he stayed on the phone,
made a few more calls.

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You talk to him about it?

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He told me to back off.

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He was into his conversation.
Seemed angry.

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Didn't know if it was with me

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or the person
he was talking to.

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Who was he talking to?
No idea.

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But every time he hung up he put
in more coins, dialed again.

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Flight left 10 minutes late.

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You can insist on talking
to my sister all you want,

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but I'm telling you,
she is too upset.

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Your brother-in-law called
home three times from JFK.

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We need to know
what he told his wife.

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I don't care whether he
called her every 30 seconds.

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Maybe he wanted to
tell her he loved her.

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Mr. Cusack...
Look,

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that's it, you know? She'll call you
when she's ready, okay? Goodbye.

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Give her a couple of hours,
take another run at it.

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The next phone number on the
list is Schirloff and Company.

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You're sure about the calls?

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Two of them. From
JFK to your extension.

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Frank Naransky. Oh, yeah.

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Bad news.

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Yeah. He died along
with five other people.

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I didn't mean that.

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His wife, Patricia,
she has lupus.

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Naransky was on the warpath.

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Wanted the company to pay for a kidney
transplant to get her off dialysis.

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Is that so unusual?

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Patty Naransky was sick,
dialysis once a week.

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One doctor pushing
for the operation.

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But our doctors say she's getting
better, the treatment's working.

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Which doesn't qualify
her for a transplant?

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Which makes it
elective surgery.

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She doesn't need a transplant.

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And Naransky didn't get this?

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He didn't want her to suffer any
more dialysis, more hospital stays.

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Big battle.

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Naransky wrote letters, called two times
a day in the last couple of weeks.

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How much money are
we talking about?

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200,000 for an
unnecessary procedure.

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So did you talk
to him that Friday?

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No. We knew
what he wanted

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and we didn't want
to hear it anymore.

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Our hands were tied.

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I bet.

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BRISCOE: His bank says
he tried to get a loan.

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But who's gonna put up
200 grand for a procedure

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the HMO hasn't green lighted?

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What are his finances like?

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Second on the house. Took his
oldest son out of college,

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sent him to a JC to save money.

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A man in a deep hole.

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Okay, it's all set up.

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Listen close. The first
voice we're gonna hear

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is the controller
at the heliport.

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POLLACK: Frank, you got a
four minute ETA to JFK Radar.

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POLLACK: Winds south-southeast at 12.
Visibility, five miles.

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(STATIC)

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Didn't read you,
Frank. Say again?

248
00:10:59,450 --> 00:11:01,060
(PEOPLE SCREAMING)
FRANK: Oh, my God!

249
00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,730
Well, that clears things up.

250
00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,260
PAYDEN: It will if
we reduce the static,

251
00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,600
pull up the voice print
and slam out interference.

252
00:11:08,830 --> 00:11:11,070
BRISCOE: If it's Michael
Bolton, I'm out of here.

253
00:11:11,170 --> 00:11:12,540
(CHUCKLES) Okay, here we go.

254
00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,180
Visibility five miles.

255
00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,440
FRANK: I'm sorry. Didn't read you, Frank.
Say again?

256
00:11:17,510 --> 00:11:20,110
I'm sorry... Just
tell them I'm sorry.

257
00:11:20,510 --> 00:11:22,650
(SCREAMING) Oh, God.

258
00:11:22,740 --> 00:11:25,190
Lewin Heli Flight 6947 this is control.
Do you wish to...

259
00:11:27,050 --> 00:11:29,030
Frank had his flight bag.
What was in it?

260
00:11:29,150 --> 00:11:31,530
Aftershave, clean socks,
personal stuff.

261
00:11:31,590 --> 00:11:33,960
Did Naransky carry-on
anything besides the bag?

262
00:11:34,020 --> 00:11:35,060
Just his bag.

263
00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:36,690
You and Naransky,
what'd you talk about?

264
00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:37,900
Nothing really.
Chitchat.

265
00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:38,990
You known him long?

266
00:11:39,060 --> 00:11:40,730
Twenty years. My best pilot.

267
00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,900
So, if he had a problem,
you'd cover for him?

268
00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,810
Much as I like someone, I'm
not gonna cover for someone

269
00:11:44,870 --> 00:11:46,570
who turns five people
into pancake batter.

270
00:11:46,630 --> 00:11:48,510
BRISCOE: Yeah. But if
you didn't suspect...

271
00:11:50,710 --> 00:11:52,310
Mr. Lewin...

272
00:11:52,510 --> 00:11:53,920
It's not what Frank said.

273
00:11:53,980 --> 00:11:55,010
Attitude?

274
00:11:55,340 --> 00:11:56,790
Yeah. I thought it was more
of the usual, you know?

275
00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,480
Patty's so sick. Stress.

276
00:11:58,550 --> 00:12:00,120
Enough stress for
him to lose it?

277
00:12:00,850 --> 00:12:04,690
Guy flew 168 missions in Nam,
scooping grunts out of rice paddies.

278
00:12:04,750 --> 00:12:06,860
He was gonna lose it,
he'd have done it then.

279
00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,300
But he said or did something
that day to concern you?

280
00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,570
He was tired, all right? He told me he
wasn't sure he could take it anymore.

281
00:12:12,630 --> 00:12:14,130
Meaning what, the job?

282
00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,800
Meaning he needed a vacation.

283
00:12:16,100 --> 00:12:19,340
But maybe Frank was tired
or upset, but this guy,

284
00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:20,780
he was a religious man.

285
00:12:21,300 --> 00:12:23,750
Risky business,
piloting a chopper.

286
00:12:23,940 --> 00:12:25,110
He carried
big-time insurance.

287
00:12:25,170 --> 00:12:27,310
Union insurance.
Insurance through us.

288
00:12:27,910 --> 00:12:30,010
Most of them carry
private insurance, too.

289
00:12:30,610 --> 00:12:32,250
Might add up to 200 grand.

290
00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,390
I know my husband.
It wasn't suicide.

291
00:12:36,580 --> 00:12:39,260
We know you had a pretty
big financial burden.

292
00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:40,660
Frank was under the gun.

293
00:12:41,620 --> 00:12:45,470
My brother was helping Gonna raise
money for the transplant costs.

294
00:12:45,530 --> 00:12:46,700
ED: Two hundred K?

295
00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:48,500
I'm trying to mortgage my condo.

296
00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:50,040
That's gonna
bring in... What?

297
00:12:50,100 --> 00:12:51,630
Not enough, okay.

298
00:12:51,700 --> 00:12:53,370
I got about 50,000 in equity.

299
00:12:53,940 --> 00:12:56,640
Mrs. Naransky, we know
your husband had insurance.

300
00:12:56,700 --> 00:12:58,380
Over a million
by our reckoning.

301
00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,720
And you know what? They
determine he committed suicide,

302
00:13:01,780 --> 00:13:02,880
they don't pay.

303
00:13:02,940 --> 00:13:04,550
Think a man desperate
to save his wife

304
00:13:04,610 --> 00:13:06,590
is gonna leave her with
no way to save herself?

305
00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:10,990
The bomb was in
a small cardboard box,

306
00:13:11,050 --> 00:13:13,730
probably inside a paper bag,
in the luggage compartment.

307
00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,230
Maybe a gift box.

308
00:13:15,290 --> 00:13:16,530
Hell of a surprise.

309
00:13:16,690 --> 00:13:18,470
Any chance of getting
prints off the box?

310
00:13:18,530 --> 00:13:21,510
Not with our equipment.
I've sent it over to the Feds.

311
00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:23,940
See that dark loop on the top
of that one protruding piece?

312
00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,140
ED: Looks like
letters, T and a Y.

313
00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:27,740
Yeah. I was hoping
it was a watermark,

314
00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,510
but there's nothing
in the American register.

315
00:13:29,570 --> 00:13:31,780
We're trying European
and Asian markings now.

316
00:13:32,170 --> 00:13:33,680
Hey, it looks like it was red.

317
00:13:33,740 --> 00:13:34,810
Can't be sure.

318
00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,980
Color can change from
exposure, a fading element.

319
00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,850
Yeah, but...

320
00:13:40,850 --> 00:13:43,490
Red box. Koty and Sons?

321
00:13:43,650 --> 00:13:45,690
The gift shop on Madison Avenue?
Yeah.

322
00:13:45,750 --> 00:13:47,990
You picturing Naransky doing
his Christmas shopping there?

323
00:13:48,060 --> 00:13:49,330
It's a start.

324
00:13:49,390 --> 00:13:50,600
It's a hunch.

325
00:13:52,860 --> 00:13:54,810
I don't see a purchase
by a Naransky.

326
00:13:54,860 --> 00:13:56,840
Maybe something shipped
to a Naransky?

327
00:13:56,900 --> 00:13:58,380
This high-grade cardboard,

328
00:13:58,470 --> 00:14:00,780
we only use it in the
smaller size gift boxes,

329
00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,180
it's about nine by five.

330
00:14:02,300 --> 00:14:03,810
BRISCOE: Could
you check for us?

331
00:14:03,870 --> 00:14:06,320
Maybe a humidor,
very popular items.

332
00:14:06,370 --> 00:14:08,380
They'd fit the
dimensions of the box.

333
00:14:09,510 --> 00:14:12,490
No purchase by a Naransky.
No shipping to a Naransky.

334
00:14:12,710 --> 00:14:14,660
Would you have a record
if he paid cash?

335
00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,460
Our patrons rarely pay cash.

336
00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,560
How about anything in that size
in the week before the ninth?

337
00:14:21,290 --> 00:14:23,390
A clock, sent out of state.

338
00:14:23,490 --> 00:14:24,730
A man's accessory box.

339
00:14:24,790 --> 00:14:25,860
ED: Who bought it?

340
00:14:25,930 --> 00:14:26,960
The name's Callister.

341
00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:28,130
BRISCOE: Joseph Callister?

342
00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,170
No. An M. Callister.

343
00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,940
Close enough. Callister, the
passenger bound for Indianapolis.

344
00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,240
Next of kin, Maggie Callister.

345
00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,280
I haven't seen Mrs. Callister
in at least three weeks.

346
00:14:40,340 --> 00:14:41,910
Before her husband died?
Yeah.

347
00:14:41,980 --> 00:14:43,680
Did you see Mr. Callister
the morning he died?

348
00:14:43,750 --> 00:14:46,620
Yeah. I got him a cab.
He was going out to JFK.

349
00:14:46,850 --> 00:14:49,950
I told him I heard on the radio
that the tunnel was blocked.

350
00:14:50,020 --> 00:14:52,500
So he decided to go
to the heliport instead.

351
00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,530
Mrs. LaSasso. She lives next
door to the Callisters.

352
00:14:57,590 --> 00:14:59,900
These detectives are
looking for Mrs. Callister.

353
00:14:59,990 --> 00:15:01,100
Well, I haven't seen her.

354
00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,230
Any idea where she is?

355
00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,040
I would've said divorce court,
but I guess that's moot now.

356
00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,810
Yeah, I guess. Callisters
didn't get along, huh?

357
00:15:08,070 --> 00:15:10,350
Voices raised in anger,
doors slamming.

358
00:15:10,610 --> 00:15:12,050
You know what they
were arguing about?

359
00:15:12,510 --> 00:15:16,050
Just screaming. I wasn't
eavesdropping, Officer.

360
00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,850
BRISCOE: Do you have any idea
where she might've gone?

361
00:15:17,910 --> 00:15:20,890
I think she had family in Indiana.
Besides that, I don't know.

362
00:15:21,380 --> 00:15:22,380
Thank you.

363
00:15:22,450 --> 00:15:24,090
If Mrs. Callister
shows up, give us a call.

364
00:15:24,150 --> 00:15:25,220
Sure.

365
00:15:25,290 --> 00:15:28,930
Knock-down, drag-out. I wonder if she
even bothered to claim the body?

366
00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:36,170
What can we do
for you, Detectives?

367
00:15:36,230 --> 00:15:38,140
BRISCOE: Just come from
the coroner's office.

368
00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,480
They gave us this address
for Maggie Callister.

369
00:15:40,570 --> 00:15:42,240
Yes. Maggie's been
staying with us,

370
00:15:42,300 --> 00:15:45,340
which explains why she gave this
address when she claimed Joe's body.

371
00:15:45,410 --> 00:15:47,350
She's not here now, though.
She's returned to work.

372
00:15:47,410 --> 00:15:48,940
How long has she
been staying here?

373
00:15:49,010 --> 00:15:51,150
ELIAS: On and off,
for a couple of weeks.

374
00:15:51,210 --> 00:15:53,120
Since before her
husband's death?

375
00:15:53,180 --> 00:15:55,060
Joe stayed here
a few nights as well.

376
00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:56,560
BRISCOE: Nice
bed and breakfast.

377
00:15:56,620 --> 00:15:59,290
They're having their apartment painted.
Putting it on the market.

378
00:15:59,350 --> 00:16:01,490
We heard they were
having marital problems.

379
00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,040
If so, we never heard.

380
00:16:03,090 --> 00:16:05,470
Neighbor said they were
really going at it.

381
00:16:05,530 --> 00:16:07,400
They have strong personalities.

382
00:16:07,460 --> 00:16:10,100
So do we. Nothing unhealthy about that.
(CHUCKLING)

383
00:16:10,770 --> 00:16:13,270
Doesn't it feel great
when you say what you feel?

384
00:16:13,330 --> 00:16:15,180
I tried that with
my first wife.

385
00:16:15,340 --> 00:16:17,040
How long have you
known the Callisters?

386
00:16:17,140 --> 00:16:19,620
Uh, we met at a rare
books auction last year.

387
00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:23,020
We were bidding on the same first
edition of Sanders' Geografica.

388
00:16:23,980 --> 00:16:25,720
If you'll excuse me
for saying so, uh,

389
00:16:25,780 --> 00:16:28,420
you and the Callisters hardly
seem to be in the same league.

390
00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:30,430
It's just appearances,
Detective.

391
00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,620
If you have more questions,
you should ask Maggie.

392
00:16:32,690 --> 00:16:34,170
Excuse us.

393
00:16:38,660 --> 00:16:41,300
I had something to do with
Joe's life, Detectives,

394
00:16:41,660 --> 00:16:43,110
not his death.

395
00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,910
I'm sorry. We have to ask
these questions to...

396
00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,740
To cover your bases. Well...

397
00:16:49,300 --> 00:16:50,910
You're off base.

398
00:16:51,310 --> 00:16:53,440
Mrs. Callister, uh,

399
00:16:53,510 --> 00:16:57,650
did you purchase a man's
accessory box at Koty and Sons?

400
00:16:58,910 --> 00:17:02,590
I shop there often, I can't
remember every purchase.

401
00:17:02,650 --> 00:17:05,560
This you'd remember. A few days
before your husband's death.

402
00:17:06,650 --> 00:17:08,500
Uh, I... I'm sorry.

403
00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,160
Uh, your neighbor,
Mrs. LaSasso,

404
00:17:11,230 --> 00:17:12,800
says she heard you two arguing.

405
00:17:12,860 --> 00:17:16,100
Ellen LaSasso is a
very nice old woman.

406
00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,370
But my husband and I were
still very much in love.

407
00:17:20,940 --> 00:17:22,680
Pretty early
to be back to work.

408
00:17:23,940 --> 00:17:28,440
If I sit in one place too long and dwell
on Joe's death, I will fall apart.

409
00:17:29,980 --> 00:17:32,750
Were they selling to buy a bigger
place or to buy two places?

410
00:17:32,810 --> 00:17:36,260
Can't find anything but the primary
real estate listing for sale.

411
00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,320
There's no bids on prospective
property, nothing in escrow.

412
00:17:39,390 --> 00:17:41,330
Their bank accounts
have minimum balances.

413
00:17:41,390 --> 00:17:43,700
Joint account had just
enough to cover their nut.

414
00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,260
Well, how much were
these people making?

415
00:17:45,330 --> 00:17:48,570
She's a partner in an ad firm.
He owns a dot-com book company

416
00:17:48,630 --> 00:17:49,970
that just went
public last year.

417
00:17:50,030 --> 00:17:52,840
Mid six figures a month,
we can't find any of it.

418
00:17:52,900 --> 00:17:56,070
When someone's thinking
divorce, they hide assets.

419
00:17:56,270 --> 00:17:58,840
Maybe that's what Maggie
Callister was afraid of.

420
00:17:58,910 --> 00:18:02,150
But if the husband dies, she
inherits all the hidden assets.

421
00:18:02,910 --> 00:18:05,220
Did she strike you as
the happy bomb maker?

422
00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,230
Bomb lab says it was
a simple device.

423
00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,820
Something even the dumbest
hired gun could cook up.

424
00:18:09,950 --> 00:18:11,190
(PHONE RINGING)

425
00:18:11,750 --> 00:18:13,100
Van Buren.

426
00:18:14,790 --> 00:18:17,130
All right. All right.
We'll follow it down.

427
00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:18,360
Thanks.

428
00:18:19,490 --> 00:18:22,130
The Feds found a print
on the gift box.

429
00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,940
It's a match to
Maggie Callister.

430
00:18:25,870 --> 00:18:27,540
(KNOCKING) Maggie.

431
00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,910
Trust me. Do what they say.

432
00:18:29,970 --> 00:18:32,610
Hold up your head up.
You can handle this.

433
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,950
BRISCOE: Margaret Callister,
you're under arrest

434
00:18:36,010 --> 00:18:38,620
for the murder of your husband,
Joseph, and five other people.

435
00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:39,680
I didn't do it.

436
00:18:39,750 --> 00:18:40,820
You left your
prints on the bomb.

437
00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,450
You will be fine.

438
00:18:43,220 --> 00:18:46,200
ED: You have the right to remain silent.
Anything you say can...

439
00:18:49,490 --> 00:18:51,370
Six counts murder one.

440
00:18:52,030 --> 00:18:54,270
My client's an ad exec,
McCoy, not the Una-bomber.

441
00:18:54,330 --> 00:18:56,430
She wouldn't know a stick of
dynamite from a set of spark plugs.

442
00:18:56,500 --> 00:18:58,440
I'm sure she found
someone who did.

443
00:18:58,630 --> 00:19:01,110
I'll only accept a plea
for the entire indictment.

444
00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,740
What's my client's impetus?

445
00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,250
A second bowl of
Jell-O at Bedford?

446
00:19:04,770 --> 00:19:07,950
This goes to trial, no jury gives
her less than a death penalty.

447
00:19:08,010 --> 00:19:09,080
Based on what?

448
00:19:09,140 --> 00:19:11,350
A box she may have bought that
may have contained a bomb?

449
00:19:11,410 --> 00:19:13,090
We have her fingerprints
on that box.

450
00:19:13,150 --> 00:19:15,680
A, one partial print.

451
00:19:15,950 --> 00:19:19,520
And B, touching a box isn't yet
a crime in New York State.

452
00:19:20,420 --> 00:19:22,090
Motion to dismiss.

453
00:19:23,890 --> 00:19:27,000
One SOB to another,
it's going to be a pleasure.

454
00:19:34,940 --> 00:19:38,350
"Evidence insufficient, flawed
indictment." It goes on and on.

455
00:19:38,610 --> 00:19:41,640
It's moot if we conclusively
connect her to the bomb,

456
00:19:41,710 --> 00:19:43,480
find her bomb maker.

457
00:19:45,010 --> 00:19:48,120
Check out who she knows, where
she's been spending her money.

458
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,500
IRA, money market account,
CDs. Money in, money out.

459
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,500
I'm only interested in the out.

460
00:19:56,820 --> 00:20:00,930
Any canceled checks, wire
transfers, large cash withdrawals?

461
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,540
She's liquidated a number of
assets over the past few months.

462
00:20:05,130 --> 00:20:08,140
Closed a brokerage account,
several cash accounts.

463
00:20:08,340 --> 00:20:09,610
And where'd the money go?

464
00:20:10,140 --> 00:20:12,880
She took the money in the form
of several cashier's checks.

465
00:20:12,940 --> 00:20:14,750
How many and how big?

466
00:20:15,180 --> 00:20:17,520
200,000 over five months.

467
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:20,450
Endorsed over
to the KVG Corporation.

468
00:20:20,510 --> 00:20:21,620
What is that?

469
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,890
She said she and her partner
were starting up a new business.

470
00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:30,460
GARRET: I've never heard
of the KVG Corporation.

471
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,600
And I would've
remembered $200,000.

472
00:20:33,060 --> 00:20:35,270
Could she have been pursuing
something on her own?

473
00:20:35,330 --> 00:20:36,770
I wouldn't know.

474
00:20:36,900 --> 00:20:38,070
You're partners, aren't you?

475
00:20:38,430 --> 00:20:39,910
Used to be friends, too.

476
00:20:40,470 --> 00:20:43,570
I knew Joe's brother, Pat, at Stanford.
That's how I met Maggie.

477
00:20:43,870 --> 00:20:44,940
But six months ago,

478
00:20:45,010 --> 00:20:47,450
no more weekends at the beach
house, no more dinners.

479
00:20:47,810 --> 00:20:50,760
Haven't had so much as a latte
with Maggie or Joe in months.

480
00:20:50,850 --> 00:20:52,550
Like I fell off their radar.

481
00:20:52,610 --> 00:20:54,020
Did you ask why?

482
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,460
Couldn't pin her down long enough
to put the question to her.

483
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:57,790
And I wasn't the only one.

484
00:20:57,850 --> 00:21:00,390
Pat called here last week
looking for his brother.

485
00:21:00,450 --> 00:21:03,300
For God sakes, I had to be the
one to tell him about Joe.

486
00:21:04,830 --> 00:21:06,030
If I hadn't called
Maggie's partner,

487
00:21:06,090 --> 00:21:07,700
I would've missed
Joe's funeral.

488
00:21:08,530 --> 00:21:09,700
I can't believe Maggie.

489
00:21:10,060 --> 00:21:11,440
You didn't know they
were having problems?

490
00:21:11,500 --> 00:21:14,170
No. But I hadn't heard
from Joe in months.

491
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,980
And I called, I left messages,
but never heard back.

492
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,950
It's like he cut himself
off from everybody.

493
00:21:19,010 --> 00:21:20,180
I went to the funeral

494
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,810
and there was hardly anybody
there I recognized.

495
00:21:21,910 --> 00:21:22,980
Who was there?

496
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,120
Uh, this couple, the Graces,
Elias and the wife, Valerie.

497
00:21:26,180 --> 00:21:27,280
They seemed to be
running the show.

498
00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:28,690
And there were all these
other people there.

499
00:21:28,750 --> 00:21:30,290
There was no one
there you knew?

500
00:21:30,350 --> 00:21:33,090
Yeah. Just one of Joe's buddies
from Wharton, Al Goren.

501
00:21:33,150 --> 00:21:34,760
I asked him who all
these people were

502
00:21:34,820 --> 00:21:36,230
and he told me that
they were some friends

503
00:21:36,290 --> 00:21:39,360
that Joe and Maggie had met at some
seminars that the Graces had given.

504
00:21:39,660 --> 00:21:40,800
What kind of seminars?

505
00:21:40,860 --> 00:21:43,030
It sounded like
a business seminar.

506
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,340
Empowering success,
envisioning, whatever.

507
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,810
I tuned out.

508
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,410
Do you have
Mr. Goren's number?

509
00:21:51,540 --> 00:21:52,610
Yeah.

510
00:21:53,940 --> 00:21:56,580
Bid 42,000 Texas Sweet at 20.

511
00:21:58,150 --> 00:22:01,320
Overcome their inertia with
your vigor, they'll play at 20.

512
00:22:01,380 --> 00:22:02,620
Mr. Goren, you mind?

513
00:22:05,190 --> 00:22:07,030
My apologies.

514
00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:08,430
Joe Callister.

515
00:22:08,490 --> 00:22:10,160
A terrible loss.
Joe was a fine man.

516
00:22:10,660 --> 00:22:12,230
Apparently his
wife didn't agree.

517
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:13,600
That's absurd.

518
00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:16,170
Joe and Maggie were
way past petty jealousies.

519
00:22:16,230 --> 00:22:18,180
We had much more
important work to do.

520
00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:19,940
What kind of work?

521
00:22:21,370 --> 00:22:22,370
Running the world.

522
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,640
You're joking.

523
00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:25,480
Aim high. Why settle for less?

524
00:22:25,540 --> 00:22:27,990
And you got this from what,
the Graces' seminar?

525
00:22:28,580 --> 00:22:31,220
With the right guidance,
you can get anything.

526
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,690
Meaning what, money?

527
00:22:33,650 --> 00:22:35,850
Um, that's just
the outward trappings.

528
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,790
Success, beyond any measure.

529
00:22:37,850 --> 00:22:39,630
That's what it's about, really.

530
00:22:39,890 --> 00:22:42,330
And power, real power.

531
00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:46,330
And what's the right guidance?
Elias and Valerie Grace?

532
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,540
The guy's magnetic.
And he's right.

533
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:51,940
That's why he's
on the speed dial

534
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,170
of a dozen CEOs
of the Fortune 500.

535
00:22:54,300 --> 00:22:55,610
You know this for a fact?

536
00:22:56,170 --> 00:22:58,310
You listen to him,
you're atop performer.

537
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,050
I'm here.

538
00:23:00,510 --> 00:23:01,990
Give me a call if
you're interested.

539
00:23:05,610 --> 00:23:08,220
What is this, some
kind of crazy cult?

540
00:23:08,650 --> 00:23:10,460
More like
a self-actualization group.

541
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:11,620
Self what?

542
00:23:11,690 --> 00:23:15,100
Self delusion, more like.
"Running the world."

543
00:23:15,220 --> 00:23:19,360
I can't get a handle on it, but Elias
Grace hardly seems like a role model.

544
00:23:19,730 --> 00:23:23,200
Six years ago, he was convicted of
assault and battery in Pennsylvania.

545
00:23:23,260 --> 00:23:25,210
Some guy refused
to embrace success?

546
00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:27,710
No. Someone refused to get
out of the car, his wife.

547
00:23:27,770 --> 00:23:29,480
He beat his wife?
Charming.

548
00:23:29,540 --> 00:23:31,810
What does this have to do
with the Callisters?

549
00:23:31,870 --> 00:23:35,620
Maybe a lot. The Callisters,
separately and jointly,

550
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,990
liquidated assets worth over one million
dollars in the past six months.

551
00:23:39,050 --> 00:23:40,650
That's one-fifth
of their net worth.

552
00:23:40,710 --> 00:23:41,820
Where's the money?

553
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,830
It went to the KVG Corporation.

554
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,890
According to state records, it's a non-profit
operated by Elias and Valerie Grace,

555
00:23:48,190 --> 00:23:50,570
who seem to be living high
off a whole herd of hogs.

556
00:23:50,620 --> 00:23:52,930
Well, a million dollar's
worth killing over.

557
00:23:53,390 --> 00:23:54,700
Ask the Graces if they agree.

558
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:55,830
I tried.

559
00:23:55,900 --> 00:23:57,200
Five calls. No returns.

560
00:23:57,260 --> 00:23:59,040
Then embrace them
with a subpoena.

561
00:24:02,970 --> 00:24:05,280
The subpoena was
entirely unnecessary.

562
00:24:05,340 --> 00:24:06,980
We knocked, nobody answered.

563
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,520
Ever lose anyone close to you?

564
00:24:08,580 --> 00:24:09,610
Mr. Grace...

565
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,520
Hard, right? Please.

566
00:24:12,850 --> 00:24:14,920
We went to our
Rockland County retreat.

567
00:24:14,980 --> 00:24:16,360
Turned off the phones,

568
00:24:16,420 --> 00:24:19,260
tried to understand how bad
things happen to great people.

569
00:24:19,590 --> 00:24:21,290
Looks like things
started to go bad

570
00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:23,160
for the Callisters
long before this.

571
00:24:23,220 --> 00:24:24,600
Their lifestyles changed...

572
00:24:24,660 --> 00:24:27,200
For the better. They
were rudderless before.

573
00:24:27,630 --> 00:24:28,940
JACK: Before they met you?

574
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,410
Before they were in
touch with themselves.

575
00:24:31,430 --> 00:24:32,540
Thanks to you?

576
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,600
I helped them understand that
nobody could take away the success

577
00:24:35,670 --> 00:24:36,840
they were entitled to.

578
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:38,740
Success comes from in here.

579
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,850
So, maybe you can explain how a million
dollars of the Callisters' money

580
00:24:43,910 --> 00:24:45,950
found its way into
the KVG Corporation.

581
00:24:46,180 --> 00:24:47,220
(SIGHS)

582
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,760
People only value
the things they pay for.

583
00:24:49,820 --> 00:24:52,230
Our friends value learning to
feel good about themselves.

584
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,160
Learning that is worth
a million dollars?

585
00:24:54,220 --> 00:24:55,560
We make it stick.

586
00:24:56,260 --> 00:25:00,360
You know the old story about giving a
man a fish versus teaching him to fish?

587
00:25:00,430 --> 00:25:01,670
We teach our friends to fish.

588
00:25:01,730 --> 00:25:05,510
Last year, three of our friends had
IPO's in the hundred million range.

589
00:25:05,570 --> 00:25:06,980
It works, Miss Carmichael.

590
00:25:07,030 --> 00:25:09,570
And does this happen with all
the members of your group?

591
00:25:09,940 --> 00:25:10,940
ELIAS: Group?

592
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,540
JACK: You do have
a group, don't you?

593
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:15,120
A wide circle of friends.

594
00:25:15,610 --> 00:25:16,610
Followers.

595
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,210
If a friend sees a movie
on your recommendation,

596
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,490
is he a follower or just
interested in your opinion?

597
00:25:22,150 --> 00:25:23,960
And how is your
opinion delivered?

598
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,390
We have meetings, retreats, seminars.
We're people.

599
00:25:28,460 --> 00:25:30,530
We share our
ideas with friends.

600
00:25:30,990 --> 00:25:32,990
And in return,
they make you rich.

601
00:25:33,060 --> 00:25:37,300
Our friends are grateful, yes, but we
aren't a business. Check our records.

602
00:25:37,460 --> 00:25:39,070
We intend to.

603
00:25:40,270 --> 00:25:41,840
I could contest any subpoena.

604
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,940
But why would we?

605
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,750
Maybe you'd like to see
a pamphlet on our courses?

606
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:50,990
An ambitious guy like you might want to
consider looking at things a new way.

607
00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:55,890
First look, it seems
totally innocent.

608
00:25:55,950 --> 00:25:59,630
People taking courses, attending
seminars, making contributions.

609
00:26:00,020 --> 00:26:01,470
All of them paying
for the privilege.

610
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,330
Another fine example
of free enterprise.

611
00:26:04,790 --> 00:26:06,200
The Grace records
show 20 people

612
00:26:06,260 --> 00:26:10,040
who consistently show up at retreats
and seminars, and give money.

613
00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:11,670
There are others,
less consistent.

614
00:26:11,930 --> 00:26:13,670
Maybe not true believers yet.

615
00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:18,670
Maggie Callister gave the Graces
20% of her monthly income.

616
00:26:18,740 --> 00:26:21,520
Same as all the others,
including the IPO millionaires.

617
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,120
Adds up.

618
00:26:24,610 --> 00:26:27,850
What'd Joe Callister pay
for his self-actualization?

619
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:30,600
In dollar figures,
a little more than his widow.

620
00:26:30,650 --> 00:26:33,130
But he was earning over four
times as much as she was.

621
00:26:33,450 --> 00:26:34,930
Mmm-hmm.

622
00:26:35,690 --> 00:26:37,900
Was he holding out
on the Graces?

623
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,160
(EXHALES)

624
00:26:40,490 --> 00:26:43,440
Got a Harley Ellison,
guy from Scranton.

625
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:47,340
He's getting 20,000
a month from the Graces.

626
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,180
I consult for the Graces.

627
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:56,410
You write their pamphlets?

628
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,480
No.

629
00:26:58,380 --> 00:27:00,260
You already have two
convictions for check-kiting.

630
00:27:01,010 --> 00:27:02,390
From eight years ago.

631
00:27:02,450 --> 00:27:04,400
One more strike and you're out.

632
00:27:07,250 --> 00:27:11,530
I met Elias doing
a summer job at a quarry.

633
00:27:12,090 --> 00:27:15,200
His name was Karl Gratz.
We were college students.

634
00:27:15,630 --> 00:27:18,510
And the 20,000 a month,
that's for old times' sake?

635
00:27:18,570 --> 00:27:20,100
It's a royalty.

636
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:23,080
We didn't plan on spending
the rest of our lives here.

637
00:27:23,140 --> 00:27:24,580
We had active imaginations.

638
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,020
One night, Elias,
Valerie and I got together

639
00:27:27,070 --> 00:27:28,680
and played at creating
our own religion.

640
00:27:28,910 --> 00:27:30,180
And how did the game end?

641
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,450
By dawn we'd come up
with eight rules.

642
00:27:33,510 --> 00:27:36,360
I came up with the first
rule, "Love yourself."

643
00:27:37,180 --> 00:27:38,600
I lose touch with Elias.

644
00:27:38,650 --> 00:27:41,690
Five years ago, I see him
on the cover of a magazine,

645
00:27:41,790 --> 00:27:46,000
an article about him and "Mastery
For Success," he called it.

646
00:27:46,060 --> 00:27:47,900
All the rules we'd dreamed up.

647
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,300
So you put a call on Elias to see
if there's something in it for you.

648
00:27:51,370 --> 00:27:53,280
He's raking it in,
hand over fist.

649
00:27:53,330 --> 00:27:54,610
With "love yourself"?

650
00:27:54,870 --> 00:27:56,370
Know your audience.

651
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,210
The people who go
to his seminars,

652
00:27:58,270 --> 00:28:01,690
dot-com millionaires who 10 years
ago, they didn't have a dime.

653
00:28:01,740 --> 00:28:04,120
Now they have millions
and they feel guilty.

654
00:28:04,180 --> 00:28:06,180
They're filled with
self-loathing and insecurity.

655
00:28:06,250 --> 00:28:08,850
So, yeah, "love yourself"
goes a long way.

656
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,990
But giving away one-fifth
of their total net worth?

657
00:28:12,050 --> 00:28:14,900
Rule number four,
"Only the chosen can join"

658
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,870
Elias made it
an exclusive club.

659
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,700
If you didn't have seven figures in
your bank account, keep walking.

660
00:28:21,330 --> 00:28:24,100
And what do the Graces get for their
pay-off to you? Your silence?

661
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,870
And my absence.

662
00:28:25,930 --> 00:28:27,670
I didn't like the place anyway.

663
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,670
Guns make me nervous.

664
00:28:30,540 --> 00:28:31,640
Guns?

665
00:28:32,940 --> 00:28:35,150
At the Rockland County place.

666
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,610
That's it for guns?
Two $15,000 Parkers?

667
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:39,990
They shoot skeet.

668
00:28:40,250 --> 00:28:42,120
What do you keep in the shed?

669
00:28:42,180 --> 00:28:43,350
Tools.

670
00:28:43,620 --> 00:28:44,860
Show us.

671
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,560
(DOOR CREAKS)

672
00:28:59,230 --> 00:29:00,940
What's the dynamite for?

673
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,740
We got beaver dams.

674
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,580
Pretty big beavers.

675
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,550
Eight half-sticks. You got enough
to take you into the next decade.

676
00:29:07,610 --> 00:29:12,790
Eight? Ought to be 10. I bought
a dozen half-sticks, used two.

677
00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:15,120
Anybody else have
a key to this shed?

678
00:29:15,180 --> 00:29:17,090
Just Mr. Grace.

679
00:29:21,420 --> 00:29:26,130
"Docket 34305, People v.
Elias and Valerie Grace."

680
00:29:26,190 --> 00:29:29,270
"Murder in the first
degree, six counts each."

681
00:29:29,330 --> 00:29:30,740
How do the defendants plead?

682
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:31,970
Not guilty, Your Honor.

683
00:29:32,030 --> 00:29:33,740
With my husband, not guilty.

684
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:36,820
Domestic accord, how touching.
People on bail?

685
00:29:36,870 --> 00:29:37,870
Remand, Your Honor.

686
00:29:37,940 --> 00:29:40,750
The Graces killed six people in
collusion with Margaret Callister

687
00:29:40,810 --> 00:29:43,250
in an effort to keep one of
them from leaving their cult.

688
00:29:43,310 --> 00:29:44,310
Cult?

689
00:29:44,910 --> 00:29:48,990
There is no cult, Your Honor, and no
evidence linking my clients to the bomb.

690
00:29:49,050 --> 00:29:50,890
Our lab made a chemical
match of the bomb

691
00:29:50,950 --> 00:29:53,120
with the explosives seized
at the defendants' estate.

692
00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:56,030
Any one of a number of people
had access to that dynamite.

693
00:29:56,090 --> 00:29:58,590
Elias Grace worked with
explosives at a quarry

694
00:29:58,660 --> 00:30:00,940
and has a history of threatening
and violent behavior.

695
00:30:00,990 --> 00:30:03,980
A domestic incident
six years ago?

696
00:30:04,030 --> 00:30:06,530
Judge Mannheim, that hardly
merits consideration.

697
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,240
I think my wife would disagree.

698
00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:09,840
And as to motive, Your Honor,

699
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:12,110
the notion that my clients
would harm Callister

700
00:30:12,170 --> 00:30:14,150
over a relatively
insignificant sum...

701
00:30:14,210 --> 00:30:17,120
Approximately one million dollars
at last count, Your Honor.

702
00:30:17,180 --> 00:30:20,560
My clients have access
to over 50 million dollars.

703
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,230
Then 10 million each
shouldn't be a problem.

704
00:30:25,020 --> 00:30:28,900
CLERK: "Docket number
27354, People"

705
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,730
CARMICHAEL: Your husband was
withholding money from the group.

706
00:30:31,790 --> 00:30:33,600
He was planning to leave.

707
00:30:33,790 --> 00:30:36,970
Did they tell you that's
why they wanted him dead?

708
00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:39,470
If you want to save your
life, Mrs. Callister,

709
00:30:39,530 --> 00:30:41,210
you'll cooperate.

710
00:30:41,270 --> 00:30:42,940
RICKS: She didn't do it.

711
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,710
CARMICHAEL: They gave you the bomb to
give to your husband, didn't they?

712
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:51,920
I won't turn against them.

713
00:30:52,250 --> 00:30:56,720
Elias and Valerie...
They're multiple murderers.

714
00:30:57,020 --> 00:30:59,360
You don't know what
you're talking about.

715
00:30:59,420 --> 00:31:01,630
They're con artists,
Mrs. Callister.

716
00:31:01,690 --> 00:31:05,000
They used you and your
husband to get your money!

717
00:31:05,060 --> 00:31:07,540
No, that is not what they did!

718
00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:10,540
They taught me how
to maximize my success.

719
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,540
They taught me how
to negotiate for power.

720
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:15,750
We're giving you a
chance, Mrs. Callister.

721
00:31:16,170 --> 00:31:20,210
If you don't take it, you'll be
destroyed along with the Graces.

722
00:31:22,980 --> 00:31:26,920
Elias and Valerie are the
greatest people on earth.

723
00:31:26,980 --> 00:31:29,550
You're Neanderthals
compared to them.

724
00:31:32,890 --> 00:31:35,200
How does an intelligent woman
like Maggie Callister,

725
00:31:35,260 --> 00:31:37,670
get drawn in by
these megalomaniacs?

726
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,860
Are we sure the Graces
are behind it?

727
00:31:39,930 --> 00:31:41,700
They had the means, the motive,

728
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,000
and Elias had the
wherewithal to make a bomb.

729
00:31:44,060 --> 00:31:46,840
You have to put that bomb
in the Graces' hands.

730
00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:49,540
JACK: Somebody in that
group must know something.

731
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,840
Yeah, but if they're anything
like Maggie Callister...

732
00:31:51,910 --> 00:31:53,850
At the arraignment,
the Graces' attorney said

733
00:31:53,910 --> 00:31:56,320
anyone could've had
access to the dynamite.

734
00:31:56,380 --> 00:31:57,410
Well, the groundskeeper said

735
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,860
he and Elias were the only
ones with the key to the shed.

736
00:31:59,910 --> 00:32:01,320
He could be wrong.

737
00:32:01,950 --> 00:32:03,860
Let's take them at their word.

738
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,760
Impute the motive
to the group as a whole.

739
00:32:06,620 --> 00:32:08,500
Arrest them all? Jack...

740
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,560
For conspiracy
to commit murder.

741
00:32:11,290 --> 00:32:14,100
And Abbie, this
time, get remand.

742
00:32:20,730 --> 00:32:21,970
Conspiracy?

743
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,170
No way you prove
an overt act, McCoy.

744
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,910
My client had nothing
to do with it.

745
00:32:25,970 --> 00:32:27,680
If he didn't, he knows who did.

746
00:32:27,740 --> 00:32:30,280
You people are so off base
about Elias and Valerie.

747
00:32:30,340 --> 00:32:31,880
You're scared of them. That's
why you're hounding them.

748
00:32:32,110 --> 00:32:35,460
We're hounding them because they
killed six people, including

749
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,590
a five-year-old child.

750
00:32:36,650 --> 00:32:39,030
Am I an idiot? Do you think
that I would associate myself

751
00:32:39,090 --> 00:32:40,360
with anybody who'd do that?

752
00:32:40,420 --> 00:32:43,400
All that I have achieved,
I owe to Elias and Valerie.

753
00:32:43,490 --> 00:32:46,560
I hope you are prepared to
give them your all, Mr. Goren.

754
00:32:46,630 --> 00:32:47,970
You'll be here a long time.

755
00:32:48,030 --> 00:32:49,370
(GATE OPENING)

756
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,680
I don't know anything.

757
00:32:57,270 --> 00:32:59,550
My husband brought
me to the Graces.

758
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,620
I thought it was an
investment group at first.

759
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,680
And then?

760
00:33:03,740 --> 00:33:05,190
Alice, don't
trust these people.

761
00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:06,750
Help yourself and your husband.

762
00:33:06,810 --> 00:33:08,220
If the Graces didn't
do anything wrong,

763
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,560
they don't have
anything to hide.

764
00:33:12,420 --> 00:33:15,870
My husband said if we signed
over 20% of our assets,

765
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,060
they'd be returned
a hundred times over.

766
00:33:18,260 --> 00:33:19,460
Were they?

767
00:33:20,060 --> 00:33:24,100
My husband made a lot of
money under Elias' guidance,

768
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,770
but it felt like
I was losing him.

769
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,950
And Elias never said anything
about Joe Callister?

770
00:33:38,350 --> 00:33:40,690
Was Elias angry at Joe
about the missing money?

771
00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:42,660
It's nothing like that.

772
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,330
I heard Joe was
having an affair.

773
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:49,920
With whom?

774
00:33:50,620 --> 00:33:52,130
I don't know.

775
00:33:52,190 --> 00:33:53,500
Maggie told me
he was on his way

776
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,770
to see his mistress
when he was killed.

777
00:34:00,370 --> 00:34:02,370
We're back to a
crime of passion?

778
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,780
Takes the Graces off the hook.

779
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,180
It's just a rumor.

780
00:34:05,410 --> 00:34:07,650
Have the police chase it down.

781
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,180
Joe Callister was booked on
a flight to Indianapolis.

782
00:34:14,010 --> 00:34:16,020
No sign of any
affair in New York.

783
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,360
If Callister was cheating on
his wife, he was a real pro.

784
00:34:18,420 --> 00:34:20,160
Hmm. If you took a page from
this guy's book, Lennie,

785
00:34:20,220 --> 00:34:21,260
you'd still be married.

786
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,660
Bite your tongue.

787
00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:25,570
He's been to Indianapolis
once in two years.

788
00:34:25,630 --> 00:34:27,540
So, he wasn't getting
it at that end, either.

789
00:34:27,590 --> 00:34:30,910
Guy was booked on United's 10:00 a.m.
to Indianapolis.

790
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,740
Hmm, it's a business trip, so?

791
00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:34,540
American's got
a Joseph A. Callister

792
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,010
booked on their 5:00 p.m.
to Indianapolis.

793
00:34:36,070 --> 00:34:37,550
Same guy, same day.

794
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,910
A seven-hour layover,
figuratively speaking, of course.

795
00:34:41,070 --> 00:34:42,140
Check the airport hotels,

796
00:34:42,210 --> 00:34:44,310
see if Joseph A. Callister
had a reservation that day.

797
00:34:49,650 --> 00:34:51,720
Callister, Mr. Joseph A.

798
00:34:51,790 --> 00:34:54,200
Room reserved the day
before, never checked in.

799
00:34:54,250 --> 00:34:55,860
BRISCOE: Did he
call to cancel?

800
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,900
Records only have
him as a no-show.

801
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,600
We held the room
until 4:00 p.m.,

802
00:34:59,660 --> 00:35:00,660
then voided the transaction.

803
00:35:01,130 --> 00:35:02,400
Did anybody show up
looking for him?

804
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:04,700
BRISCOE: Maybe a woman?

805
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,240
Oh, yeah. She came to the desk.

806
00:35:07,300 --> 00:35:09,040
She said if he came
in, to tell him

807
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:10,740
she was waiting for
him in the restaurant.

808
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,840
ED: Describe her.

809
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:14,280
Pretty. Brown hair. Petite.

810
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:16,110
You wouldn't still
have the tape

811
00:35:16,180 --> 00:35:17,350
from the security
camera, would you?

812
00:35:17,410 --> 00:35:19,250
We don't.
But the FBI does.

813
00:35:21,150 --> 00:35:22,960
Bureau scooped security tapes

814
00:35:23,020 --> 00:35:25,960
from airport hotels from before
and after the chopper went down

815
00:35:26,020 --> 00:35:27,260
as part of their investigation.

816
00:35:27,350 --> 00:35:29,060
Score one for the good guys.

817
00:35:32,130 --> 00:35:34,230
JACK: Valerie Grace.

818
00:35:34,290 --> 00:35:37,500
Joe Callister and mother
superior, one big happy.

819
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,570
She was Callister's lover?

820
00:35:39,930 --> 00:35:42,000
Gives Elias Grace
motive in spades.

821
00:35:42,070 --> 00:35:44,210
Yeah, but that still doesn't
put the bomb in his mitts.

822
00:35:44,270 --> 00:35:45,680
Talk to his wife.

823
00:35:46,210 --> 00:35:48,410
She might like to nail
the man who killed her lover.

824
00:35:48,810 --> 00:35:51,120
Well, so far, she's
standing by that man.

825
00:35:51,210 --> 00:35:52,590
They're into self-realization,

826
00:35:52,650 --> 00:35:54,680
let's see how they
self-realize this tape.

827
00:35:54,750 --> 00:35:55,750
Call their lawyer.

828
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:57,800
Neanderthals.

829
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,860
Please, sit down.

830
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,200
We'll take your
apologies standing up.

831
00:36:04,260 --> 00:36:06,670
(SIGHS) We know about your
affair with Joe Callister.

832
00:36:06,730 --> 00:36:07,970
What are you talking about?

833
00:36:08,530 --> 00:36:11,940
This was taken by a security
camera at a hotel near

834
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,500
the airport the day
Joe Callister was killed.

835
00:36:14,570 --> 00:36:17,140
That's you, Mrs. Grace,

836
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,810
there to meet Joe Callister,
who had reserved a room.

837
00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:23,320
Only, thanks to your husband,
Joe never showed up.

838
00:36:23,710 --> 00:36:25,620
I don't know what that
tape purports to show,

839
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,320
but my wife was
not having an affair.

840
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,460
Sweetheart.

841
00:36:31,650 --> 00:36:34,060
We're willing to consider
a deal, Mrs. Grace.

842
00:36:43,860 --> 00:36:46,430
Elias knew about Joe.

843
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:49,240
Valerie, I strongly urge you
to keep your mouth shut.

844
00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:50,300
(SCOFFS) This is absurd.

845
00:36:50,370 --> 00:36:51,870
It was a week before Joe died.

846
00:36:52,110 --> 00:36:54,480
Elias came in the room,
I was knitting,

847
00:36:54,540 --> 00:36:56,350
I... I do that
when I'm bored.

848
00:36:56,410 --> 00:36:58,220
Valerie, focus.
Think what you're doing.

849
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,120
He said he knew
about Joe and me,

850
00:37:00,410 --> 00:37:01,950
heard me on the phone with Joe.

851
00:37:02,020 --> 00:37:03,960
All right, now I'm
telling you, be quiet!

852
00:37:04,020 --> 00:37:07,360
I just kept knitting, and
then he said he forgave me.

853
00:37:07,890 --> 00:37:09,700
He said

854
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,790
I was only human,
people make mistakes.

855
00:37:11,860 --> 00:37:16,000
And I believed him,
and he believed me.

856
00:37:16,730 --> 00:37:18,710
(SIGHS) I'd like
a word with my wife.

857
00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:20,270
Her turn now, Mr. Grace.

858
00:37:20,330 --> 00:37:21,710
If I could just speak to her...

859
00:37:21,770 --> 00:37:23,080
You've spoken quite enough.

860
00:37:23,140 --> 00:37:24,210
My attorney, then...

861
00:37:24,270 --> 00:37:26,150
Time to listen!

862
00:37:26,940 --> 00:37:28,510
Please continue,
Mrs. Grace.

863
00:37:34,410 --> 00:37:36,020
I kept knitting.

864
00:37:39,250 --> 00:37:43,790
And I lied to him and I told
him Joe and I were finished.

865
00:37:44,260 --> 00:37:46,290
I lied even when he forgave me.

866
00:37:47,090 --> 00:37:49,130
I lied

867
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,000
and I never dropped a stitch.

868
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,210
You knew your
husband killed him?

869
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:54,840
No.

870
00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:59,610
Not until Mr. Heckstrom told me
the dynamite came from the shed.

871
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,280
CARMICHAEL: Why didn't
you come forward then?

872
00:38:02,740 --> 00:38:04,480
I know what he's capable of.

873
00:38:04,540 --> 00:38:05,680
I was terrified.

874
00:38:05,780 --> 00:38:08,420
Who are you? I made
you what you are!

875
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,220
And then you lied!

876
00:38:10,420 --> 00:38:11,990
You couldn't stand
that I strayed.

877
00:38:12,050 --> 00:38:13,960
And look what you did.

878
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,070
Mr. McCoy, take the death
penalty off the table,

879
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,360
we'll work something out.

880
00:38:18,430 --> 00:38:21,410
There are six dead people who can't
work something out, Mr. Heckstrom.

881
00:38:21,460 --> 00:38:23,630
You gain nothing
by executing Elias Grace.

882
00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:25,470
Please don't kill my husband.

883
00:38:25,530 --> 00:38:28,840
Mrs. Grace, you just admitted you
knew your husband's a murderer.

884
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,880
Just let him live.

885
00:38:30,940 --> 00:38:34,110
If it weren't for me,
for my weakness.

886
00:38:44,380 --> 00:38:46,520
I found out she was
having an affair

887
00:38:46,590 --> 00:38:48,620
when I was on a business
trip to Seattle.

888
00:38:49,820 --> 00:38:51,560
I called Valerie at home.

889
00:38:52,290 --> 00:38:53,600
It was late.

890
00:38:54,460 --> 00:38:56,910
No answer. Nobody
knew where she was.

891
00:38:59,230 --> 00:39:00,510
(SIGHS) A week later,

892
00:39:00,570 --> 00:39:03,480
I overheard her talking on the
phone to someone named Joe.

893
00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:06,770
Her voice was

894
00:39:07,410 --> 00:39:08,480
different.

895
00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:13,690
I confronted her.
At first she denied it.

896
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,460
Then she told me the truth,

897
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,360
she was with Joe Callister.

898
00:39:22,660 --> 00:39:24,790
She asked me to forgive her.

899
00:39:27,130 --> 00:39:28,470
A week later,

900
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,200
I found a hotel card
key in her purse.

901
00:39:34,130 --> 00:39:36,740
She'd lied to me.
She was still seeing him.

902
00:39:38,540 --> 00:39:40,310
I discovered Joe was
withholding money,

903
00:39:40,370 --> 00:39:42,050
they were planning something.

904
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,660
I told Maggie Callister.

905
00:39:46,780 --> 00:39:48,520
She was very angry.

906
00:39:51,180 --> 00:39:55,460
I gave her the box
to give to Joe...

907
00:40:00,130 --> 00:40:01,570
You know the rest.

908
00:40:03,460 --> 00:40:05,100
People wish to inquire?

909
00:40:05,730 --> 00:40:06,870
No, Your Honor.

910
00:40:07,130 --> 00:40:11,840
Then, Mr. Grace, in accord with your
agreement with the district attorney,

911
00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:14,390
you are hereby sentenced
to six consecutive terms

912
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,420
of life imprisonment without
the possibility of parole,

913
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,750
to be served in a facility

914
00:40:18,810 --> 00:40:20,880
to be determined by
the Department of Correction.

915
00:40:21,650 --> 00:40:22,820
(GAVEL STRIKES)

916
00:40:25,050 --> 00:40:27,860
Maggie Callister pleaded
out, six life sentences.

917
00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:30,300
Lost her money, lost her
husband, lost herself.

918
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,360
(KNOCKING ON DOOR)

919
00:40:33,130 --> 00:40:34,200
We have a problem.

920
00:40:34,430 --> 00:40:35,700
What now?

921
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,980
In his plea allocution,
Elias Grace said

922
00:40:38,030 --> 00:40:40,310
he called his wife from
Seattle, she wasn't home.

923
00:40:40,430 --> 00:40:42,670
She was with Callister.
She admitted it to him.

924
00:40:43,370 --> 00:40:45,440
Valerie Grace
never left the city,

925
00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:47,950
and Joe Callister was snowed
in in Buffalo that night.

926
00:40:48,210 --> 00:40:49,380
You know this how?

927
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,440
Hotel charges on
Callister's credit card.

928
00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:53,920
I even checked with
the hotel and the airlines.

929
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,490
It never happened,
did it, you and Joe?

930
00:40:59,550 --> 00:41:01,090
You gaslighted your husband.

931
00:41:01,820 --> 00:41:04,170
What did you do? Convince
Callister to withhold funds

932
00:41:04,220 --> 00:41:05,970
to make your husband
even crazier?

933
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,040
Don't you think we can dig
deep within ourselves

934
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:14,200
and achieve the success
for which we're destined

935
00:41:14,270 --> 00:41:16,080
by staying strong.

936
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:18,740
Being patient?

937
00:41:19,140 --> 00:41:20,620
You were destined to lie?

938
00:41:21,540 --> 00:41:22,880
I was destined for this.

939
00:41:22,940 --> 00:41:24,890
The townhouse,
the money, the power.

940
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,490
Well, there's that, but
that's not the point, is it?

941
00:41:27,910 --> 00:41:29,120
I don't know what
the point is, lady,

942
00:41:29,180 --> 00:41:30,750
but you're making
my skin crawl.

943
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:32,890
You wanted the power. Why?

944
00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:35,160
(EXHALES DEEPLY)

945
00:41:35,620 --> 00:41:37,160
Years ago when Elias hit me,

946
00:41:37,220 --> 00:41:39,640
he did it to let me know
I did not have any power.

947
00:41:40,030 --> 00:41:42,030
You could've walked away
from him at anytime.

948
00:41:42,430 --> 00:41:44,100
And walked away from this?

949
00:41:46,970 --> 00:41:49,570
I was determined
never to be hurt again.

950
00:41:50,140 --> 00:41:51,480
By anyone.

951
00:41:52,670 --> 00:41:55,620
Six people died because
of your determination.

952
00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:58,480
(SIGHS)

953
00:42:01,950 --> 00:42:04,260
My husband is a passionate man.

954
00:42:05,390 --> 00:42:07,660
His passions expressed
themselves in many ways,

955
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:09,500
not all of the nice.

956
00:42:10,990 --> 00:42:13,060
He had endless needs.

957
00:42:13,460 --> 00:42:14,800
What did he need?

958
00:42:15,230 --> 00:42:17,370
(SCOFFS) Everything.

959
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,130
There was never enough,

960
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:24,740
enough power, money, attention,
women, enough control.

961
00:42:25,510 --> 00:42:28,010
Why did you speak up in his
defense and let him live?

962
00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:34,320
So he would have
to sit very quietly

963
00:42:34,380 --> 00:42:38,230
for a very, very long time,

964
00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:41,830
and know that now I had it all.

965
00:42:44,190 --> 00:42:48,160
I wanted him to know
that, for him,

966
00:42:48,230 --> 00:42:50,710
there wasn't
going to be any more.

967
00:42:58,370 --> 00:43:00,410
There has got to be
something we can do.

968
00:43:00,470 --> 00:43:02,320
We can't prove she meant
for anyone to die.

969
00:43:02,380 --> 00:43:03,880
We can't touch her.

970
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,220
Elias Grace conned millions of
dollars out of these people

971
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,590
and he turned out to be the
biggest sucker of them all.


